Friday workout for the mind: Ideal karma for Habrahabr
The article is written
in the heat
of passion under the impression of the union of Habrahabr and Giktaims. The words
Boomburum “
We listen to everyone ’s
opinions ”, cyclically arising discussions of the karma system, as well as
MTyrz’s thought served as an impetus for its writing.
In principle, this system does not draw on the role of world justice, you can’t argue. But personally, I don’t see anything better ".
So I thought:
What the heck. Habr gathered a bunch of IT specialists who together can not come up with something better? In addition, the bird on the tail brought
something to be planned . And so, in order for the administration to have something to listen to, I suggest fruitfully debating about the system with perfect karma.
And my view will serve as a seed.
Baseline data that I have allocated for myself:
- deniskin :
In the long run (we have long-term goals) for Habr, the hardcore article about Brainfuck is more useful. It will be addressed by a more relevant audience for the project. Such a publication will have a rather long tail of references, especially if it carries value, the author will receive long-term feedback. Posts “RKN again banned Google and Amazon”, although they collect traffic, but it’s hardcore posts that create value.
So, the system should focus on the authors of articles. In the ideal case, also support the authors of hardcore articles, because of which other people will come here more than once. - Estimates should generally be anonymous. Otherwise, we will observe the situation: "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." At the same time, IMHO, you need to get away from cases where, being dissatisfied with the success of someone else’s commentary, it was possible to retaliate into karma directly, since its minus is not noticeable against the general positive background (conditionally, when the comment got + 20 / -1 and synchronously flew to karma -1) .
Karma is a tool for assessing the community as a whole, and not for disassembly between individuals. - It is necessary to somehow solve the problem of writers on narrow topics:
If you have articles, for example, only about haskel and drug addiction on the pros, then a narrow party of about fifty people will put you their pluses in karma once, that's all.
- Do not give the user, who constantly receives conditionally 20, 30, ..., 60 minuses to comments, continue to stamp them.
- Resolve the situation when the author wrote an article a few years ago, then received well-deserved awards and did not appear on the portal or did not show himself in discussions. Sometimes these authors return and suddenly begin to behave like minor characters in films about a zombie apocalypse. Perhaps their accounts were taken away, or in a few years their worldview changed, they could join a sect, believe in Santa Claus, begin to eat prana (after all, there is no need for such changes for a long time). Or maybe all this time these accounts were used for other purposes.
The fact is that such inactive users are now fully valuable forever and can be subsequently hacked, taken away and used as bots, doubles or for new publications (I think many still remember this incident ). - The system should motivate to write more.
Now I will present my solution (all numbers are indicated approximately, and more precisely, they should be chosen empirically):
- The first and absolutely natural sentence: to divide karma for post and karma for messages .
One gives the opportunity to write articles further and vote, the second - just write comments and entertain self-esteem. Such a separation will enable a person to write articles when he was not very successful as a commentator.
butIn his articles, the author should still have the opportunity to somehow comment in any case. Otherwise it will be a little ridiculous.
- Karma for messages can be calculated for each full 10 commentary rating points starting from 20 (bypassing simple systems of markups consisting of several accounts). If you have 5 posts with a rating of +5, they will not be counted.
An example on the fingers: a comment received + 45 / -8, a total of 37 votes, +2 in karma.
If in one topic a person received many drawbacks for comments (that is, karma dropped sharply by ten points) - for a couple of days of complete rest or with the ability to respond once a day, the alternative is simply to limit the possibility of commenting on this topic. - Separately, you can highlight comments with a rating of 100/150/200, etc. - for them to add (or subtract) writing karma.
In this case, for the first, for example, "-100" ban for a week. Let the man let off steam anywhere else. If there are no articles, then after the next repetition - to ban forever. - They got to a difficult question: now 1 person = 1 vote of the change in the karma of the author of the article.
The problem is that if you count on karma from rating articles, then the leaders will always be writing news and translators from GoogleTranslate (high-quality translators simply physically will not be able to issue many suitable articles all the time). If you leave it as it is, the authors of articles on narrow topics, which leave the largest informational trail, lose out.
From my point of view, a possible solution would be to pay out of one’s karma for changing someone’s writing directly (and this can only be done in the article). Wanted to turn down someone's karma - pay one. Add - also pay. Only cancel the voice - for free. Twice a plus or a minus - sorry, but no. And just for this method of assessment, you can think about the appearance of all your position with a comment.
The second step is to add an anonymous public contribution to karma, based on the formula: "article rating, multiplied by a factor."
Which, by the way, can be made different for different cases.A typical article has a coefficient x1.
For the news article - x0.2.
For translation from English / German - x0.2, from Latin (what if?) - x0.5.
For translation into English - x1.5 (for the first time). For high-quality translation into English - x2.
For hardcore - x3 (there are difficulties in defining such articles, perhaps this can be done by
responsible people from leading users.)
And if the astrologers have announced a week of HYIP about rockets, electric cars, cryptocurrency, or a variety of cards - then x0.2 (by the decision of the moderators that another article on this topic right now is already a bit of a
brute force .)
It turns out that the community will be grateful for the good articles (I hope that it will mostly be so) not individually, but jointly. And pouring from empty to empty will only be beneficial for commentators. - In the case of complete inactivity of the account for a long time (from a year), introduce a gradual degradation of the public part of the writer's karma (with a half-life per year). If he talked, but did not write new articles, in the third year she, too, will begin to melt, and by the fourth year half will remain. This applies to both positive and moderately negative.
Personal assessments will remain unchanged.
On the other hand, the invariance of personal ratings is more like a jokeThey did not like Mitrofanych in the village: in 1919 he broke a bottle of vodka.
- It would be good to make a permanent degradation of commentary karma, unless, for many negative comments, it did not reach the thresholds of serious restrictions on the portal. After all, they can only be washed away with
blood by good comments. - Last: it is necessary to calculate the amount of charges, so that they would be enough for a more active life in the community, but at the same time increase the cost for each, say, the next five minuses from one person to another per day. I wanted to personally add up 10 person's comments - you wrote off 5 + 10 day charges.
Maybe then karma will really be the result of community opinion, removing unnecessary emotions. And most importantly, it will separate the habr-writer from the habr-commentator, thanks to which there will be fewer authors with a dozen good publications and zero or negative karma, even if they really cannot comment, let them write new articles and get new advantages.
Thank you all, I welcome your comments and, especially, your options.
After all, your karma is in your hands!
Source: https://habr.com/ru/post/412819/
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